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		<description><![CDATA[If you ever read the PilotOnlie comments, then you will know that there are just some people in Hampton Roads that just don&#8217;t get it. They just don&#8217;t get how there can be people who don&#8217;t want to live in a sprawling suburb. They just don&#8217;t get that there are actually people that want to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p id="top" />If you ever read the PilotOnlie comments, then you will know that there are just some people in Hampton Roads that just don&#8217;t get it. They just don&#8217;t get how there can be people who don&#8217;t want to live in a sprawling suburb. They just don&#8217;t get that there are actually people that want to move <em>out</em> of Virginia Beach and <em>into</em> Norfolk. They just don&#8217;t get that you actually should know what you&#8217;re talking about before you form an opinion.</p>
<p>Most recently, the Virginian-Pilot ran an article about HRT&#8217;s new facility that they were building. In fact, <a href="http://757hamptonroads.com/2009/12/04/hrts-new-southside-facility/" target="_blank">I have posted already on this</a>. For a refresher, HRT&#8217;s new building was supposed to incorperate a mixed-use development, but now the developer is putting it on hold until the economy improves. My favorite comment so far is by the Virginia Beach Taxpayers&#8217; Alliance&#8217;s  Vice Chairman and Transportation Chairman, Reid Greenmun. Now, this man is affiated with the VBTA, so we know that by default he is against all change and somehow wants the city to print its own money and stop wasting their tax dollars doing crazy things such as repairing schools/roads/etc. His comment is as follows:</p>
<blockquote><p>Gosh, that must touted mythical TOD (Transit Oriented Development) HRT has been pitchinf to justify its light rail boondoggles is now shown for the myth it really was &#8211; and in this case HRT is not willing to stick with their own TOD plans! Gosh, if tens of millions of state, local, and federal taxes are available to be used to subsidize the planned HRT TOD project (LEADS &#8220;green&#8221; roof and all)- and HRT can&#8217;t make it happen with all that FREE tax money thrown into the &#8220;deal&#8221;, just imagine how unlikely it is that any PRIVATE developers will be able to find the hundreds of millions needed to build the promised TOD in VA Beach, along the old Norfolk Southern right of way. The light rail TOD ROI myth is being exposed for the sham it is &#8211; right here in River City folks!</p></blockquote>
<p>As you can see, he (and the VBTA) is severely misguided on the concept of a TOD. If we follow <em>his </em>definition of a TOD, every neighborhood that happens to be built near a bus line is a TOD. This is completely and utterly wrong. In order to be a TOD, the development has to have been built <em>because</em> of the transit line that it sits near. The HRT mixed-use development was not being build because the buses ran through. It was being built because the developer saw potential for profit. This is the same reason that the other development  was built right across the street from the HRT building: not because of HRT, but because a developer saw profit potential in an underutilized area.</p>
<div id="attachment_591" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><a href="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/hrt_granbydev.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-591" title="HRT_GranbyDev" src="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/hrt_granbydev.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="328" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Existing Development between Granby St. and Monticello Ave. HRT building can be seen in bottom right corner.</p></div>
<p>Furthermore, if TOD <em>were</em> &#8220;mythical,&#8221; how can Mr. Greenmun explain actual TODs in Northern Virginia? Take the following example in Arlington, VA:</p>
<div id="attachment_592" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><a href="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/arlington2.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-592" title="Arlington2" src="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/arlington2.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="272" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This TOD is located around the Ballston-MU Station located on the Orange Line of the DC METRO</p></div>
<div id="attachment_593" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><a href="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/arlington1.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-593" title="Arlington1" src="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/arlington1.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="275" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This suburban neighborhood is located only one mile from the TOD, above. It is not located on a transit stop</p></div>
<p>TODs are not myths, as Mr. Greenmun believes. They are simply not well known around Hampton Roads because there are so few of them. They do exist here, however. Both the Belmont @ Freemason and the Wachovia Center developments are TODs. The Wachovia Center development is <em>also</em> a mixed-use TOD. Both of these projects have a Tide light rail stop on the same block. As Hampton Roads&#8217;s light rail lines grow and become well-used, these TODs will begin to sprout up along the routes. In fact, Virginia Beach is planning a TOD off of Newtown Road <em>because</em> of Norfolk&#8217;s light rail stop.</p>
<div id="attachment_594" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><a href="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dsc07974-stitch-stitch.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-594" title="DSC07974 Stitch Stitch" src="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dsc07974-stitch-stitch.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="295" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Wachovia Center (TOD) - Under Construction</p></div>
<div id="attachment_595" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 520px"><a href="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dsc08010-stitch.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-595" title="DSC08010 Stitch" src="http://757hamptonroads.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dsc08010-stitch.jpg" alt="" width="510" height="288" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Belmont @ Freemason (TOD) - Under Construction</p></div>
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